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When women are depressed, they either eat or go shopping. Men invade another country. It's a whole different way of thinking. --Elaine Boosler

Thursday, February 09, 2006

PinK or BluE..WhicH is It?

WASHINGTON, DC --This past June, The American Civil ahem.. "Liberties" Union filed a lawsuit in federal court against the Library of Congress on behalf of a 25-year veteran of the U.S. Army whose job offer was rescinded after "she"informed the organization that he/she was in the process of transitioning from male to female.
Windy City Timeshas the complete story.

The ACLU charged that the Library of Congress unlawfully refused to hire Schroer in violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, which protects against sex discrimination in the workplace. The lawsuit also claimed that the Library's action violated Schroer's constitutional right to be free from discrimination, and violates the Library's own legal mandate to hire based only on merit.

Art Spitzer, Legal Director of the ACLU of the National Capital Area commented: "No one should have to fear being passed over for a job simply because of his or her gender identity, but this case is especially shameful."

Let's see now. "Simply because of his/her gender identity?..As if there is anything remotely simple about a man wanting to become a woman????

Dave Schroer confides...that even as a child, before puberty, he felt he was "different." "He began periodic “cross-dressing as a coping mechanism, not really understanding why,” and poured himself into work, first school, then the Army and a 16-year marriage."

Dave who is now called Diane (I know, stay with me on this one)..
"says things really began to change about five or six years ago, and credits the anonymity of the Internet with making that possible. “It allowed me to go and find information, sort it, and find what I thought was credible and discard the rest.”

Transgender chat rooms were a revelation. He/She says, “The jigsaw pieces at that point kind of settled into place and there was a dawn of understanding at that point.”

"Schroer has gone through most of the steps of a transition and will fully complete the process within a year. For all practical intents and purposes she comes across as “just a big girl, a woman who has spent a lot of time in the Army.”

Just a big girl..?...um..but she's not a girl...she's a man who is trying to somehow become a girl.

"Diane - the night after the job offer at the Library of Congress was withdrawn, drafted a complaint and sent it off the next day.
The answer came back, while what occurred might have been discrimination, it wasn't illegal because transgendered individuals are not covered under the law. Case closed.

That same evening Dave/Diane had gone online and filled out an application for assistance with the American Civil Liberties Union ( ACLU ) . They quickly agreed to take on the case and sent a letter to the Library on her behalf. It drew the same response.

The next step was to file suit; Schroer v. Billington was filed on June 2. It charges that the Library discriminated against Schroer “because he/she departs from sex stereotypes and otherwise because of his/her gender.”

However-Changing one's gender is not the equilvalent of changing one's hair color, much as the Liberals would have you believe.

"The interpersonal difficulties.. which transgender persons experience can play a large role in causing or aggravating depression..."Coming-out," disclosure concerns, balancing transition costs, social isolation, family rejection, and being single or unable to find acceptance from a significant other, are some of the recognizable sources of depression in transgender persons. Less frequently acknowledged contributors to depression include; unresolved gender identity conflicts in pre and post-operative persons, pre and post-surgical emotional adjustment, poor body image and low self-esteem.
Transgender Issues and Depression
Transgender hormone administration also may play a causal role in depression. Because hormones are powerful chemicals, an increase or decrease in dosage can bring on changes in mood."

People who experience extreme conflict between their birth sex and their gender identity have a myriad of other problems..as simple common sense would dictate.
Stress, anxiety,and at times severe depression, just to name a few.

Hollywood may have a vested interest in portraying this as merely a "change" one makes in one's life, much like choosing a different color scarf.... or that the healing they do need , if any ,is not from their blatant confusion and utter inner chaos but simply the stigmatization of "hetero-sexist" beliefs of our society.

And we all know who are the first to hitch their wagon on that train.

Leave it to the ACLU to launch yet another attempt to positively brand and over-simplify an issue as complex as this, where ethics and moral values come into question, not to mention our idea of mental health.

If this strategy seems eerily familiar, it's because it is. It has been relentlessly used by liberals in conjunction with the ACLU endearing themselves to one another because they ask so very little of themselves...or of one another for that matter.

What's your take?
A man who tries to become a woman?..Simple as that...somehow..I don't think so.

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  • At 5:55 PM, Blogger Lady Jane said…

    Where do you find these stories? People are so messed up these days and the ACLU thinks that's just dandy. No way. We have rules/laws for a reason

  • At 6:06 PM, Blogger The Uncooperative Blogger said…

    As an employer I would be worried about the mental state of the applicant. Putting everything else aside, there is allot of medical and mental issues that go along with a change like this, so why should the employer have to go through it with it? Didn't she/he/it have an obligation to inform the employer?

  • At 6:51 PM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said…

    I agree fully Uncooperative B..and despite informing the prospective employers..they just want to simplify and normalize every psychological condition.
    and Jane..wish I couldnt find stories like this..trust me..lol

  • At 8:28 PM, Blogger Regular Ron said…

    Alright, allow me to be the "bad guy" in this. For one thing, yes it is weird, strange, and well..The Almighty didn't intend for this person to be like this....BUT, this is how the person is going to be.

    And this shouldn't effect the persons job, if they are still doing what they were doing before they "changed", then why make an issue out of it.

    Mentally?? Yeah, they're whack-jobs. But it still shouldn't be an issue when it comes to employment.

    That's just my libertarain/catholic/give everyone a chane side of me, coming out.


  • At 8:55 PM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said…

    Thats alright RR..but the legal issues will get mightly complex when they want to teach your son or daughter in school etc etc etc...thanks for sharin as always ..ure so dignified in yer disagreements..lolz

  • At 3:21 AM, Blogger Chris said…

    Growing up in NYC, I can relate to this story. I worked with many gay men, some of whom claimed to be "a woman trapped in a man's body."

    This was in 1980, before transsexual surgery was so easily available. In the mail room of an insurance company, one mail clerk used to regale us with tales of his homosexual prostitute experiences as we opened the mail every day. The mail room supervisor was also gay, and had a crush on this guy. I saw all of this as an 18 year old, and I was jaded to it by then!

    It's no wonder I don't feel guilty about all of the acid I took in those days...

    More on this someday at NEXTLEAV, but back to the point: Men who want to be women should not be allowed to do it (change)surgically. More often than not, they are just mentally screwed up by something in their past. I have some experience with life and therapy, and this is my simple analysis.

    Some women seem like men, and some men seem like women. What I find interesting is that women seem to find effeminate men desirable, while men have little interest in masculine women. It all seems like a balancing game, with many of us fighting against some of our individual instincts. I have found myself embarassed at my love of showtunes, which seems gay. My mother and Godmother were Broadway actresses, so I was exposed to that, as well as many gay people.

    I'm making this about me, instead of commenting on the issue that you raised. I think I gave my two cents on that, but hope you don't mind the extra change in the comment box.

  • At 3:47 AM, Blogger Chris said…

    PS: Transsexuals have mental issues, by definition of what they claim to be. If one is physically of one sex, but mentally of another, I think that's a problem in the mental wiring. Employers should be protected from having to hire people with such serious identity issues.

    Next, I will mebtion this in terms of the "disability" regulations from the federal government!

  • At 6:31 AM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said…

    Hey Chris,..thanks for joinin us and feel free to expound on as many personal issues as u like..lol..I happen to agree withchu anyway which is always nice huh?..grinz

  • At 7:11 AM, Blogger David said…

    Gee, here I had trenchant observations all ready to go and the uncooperative blogger stole my thunder...

    regular ron, you're wrong if you think this person's schism from reality won't affect his job performance. He can change his appearance, but he can't change his chromosomes: he's still a he, no matter how his deranged view of himself causes him to mutilate his body.

    Gee... self-mutilation (with the aid of medical personnel no less!) is usually regarded as a sign of serious emotional instability. Just not in the PC realm of so-called "gender identity" I guess...

    And Chris, I will continue to object to the hijacking of "gay" to mean homosexual. The homosexual population is no more "happy, carefree" than the heterosexual population... and from most public examples of the whiners, sreamers and fit-throwers among homosexual activists, perhaps even less populated by gay people than the heterosexual population.

    Of course, Chris, you observations of the mental health issues of so-called transexuals is correct. (It has to be since we agree in substance, and EVERYONE knows that being in agreement with me is the right thing to do--*ROFL*)

  • At 9:19 AM, Blogger American Crusader said…

    This raises so many issues, I don't know where to begin. Why didn't the applicant inform his future employer what he was considering? Sometimes I suspect that people like this guy purposely go out of their way to instigate lawsuits. What consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business....as long as they aren't hurting anybody else. But this guy, I believe knowingly went out of his way in order to serve some purpose he has.

  • At 10:23 AM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said…

    Well can I agree with everyone who commented and just be PC?..lolz..complex issue tho eh?

  • At 12:04 PM, Blogger Karl m said…

    this issue is a complex one...both sides bringing it all to the table..the liberal point of.."live and let live" and the other points of "not in my backyard"...allow me to moderate....

    i believe that gender identity is a genetic coded influence..xx mom..xy dad...behaviorism that follows are learnt outside the womb...the multiple of reason why someone chooses to live their life in a certain container is one that can be addressed...therefore, if one wants to follow their programming then there are many opportunities to pursue that path...if they FEEL THE NEED to adjust...that to can be honored.(by choice)....but not at any cost!!..discrimination laws are in place to establish fairness between what is FACT...not what is FANTASY.......

  • At 12:22 PM, Blogger Middle Class Guy said…

    Looks like the ACLU is looking for more tax supported big bucks fees. This is indeed a complex issue, but so is the issue of being able to hire some one who is not what they appear to be.

    There is something missing here. Common sense.

  • At 11:02 AM, Blogger Lawman said…

    Okay, someone correct me here if I'm wrong. I'll freely admit I may not have all the facts in this one.

    From what I gather, an individual is upset because a job offer has been recinded... hhmmm... job offer... Does that mean he/she was not actually "employed" at the time? Was this person 'fired' because of the impending medical proceedure? Doesn't sound much like it. Then again, I may not fully understand the circumstances.

    Okay, lets assume they were not actually employed at the business. What incentive does the employer have to hire a new person who will be absent a good deal right from the start because of ELECTIVE surgery? It ain't like they discovered kidney stones right after being hired or anything. Trans-gender surgery is an elective proceedure done for no other reason than someone's personal choice. I haven't seen one bit of medical evidence to suggest it's REQUIRED to sustain life.

    It's high time the courts put a screeching halt to the runaway frivolous lawsuits clogging our already overburdened court systems.


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