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Thursday, February 02, 2006

The ACLU FumbleS AgaiN

Not sure if this story escaped y'all.

12-15-05 49ers Season Ticket Holders Challenge Pat-Down Policy at Monster Park

SAN FRANCISCO – Two San Francisco 49er season ticket holders are challenging the new pat-down policy implemented by the 49ers this season. The ACLU of Northern California is representing Dan Sheehan, a season ticket holder for more than thirty-five years, and his wife Kathleen, who say their right to privacy under the California Constitution is being violated. The suit was filed today in San Francisco Superior Court. The ACLU-NC is asking the court to rule that the pat-downs violate the California Constitution.
No Pat Downs for the ACLU

In case you were not aware.. the pat-down policy was implemented this season in response to a directive from the NFL, citing post-September 11th security concerns.

This particular fan sees it otherwise.

".. But this year, my family and I have been forced to submit to pat-downs by complete strangers that run their hands over my back, arms, waist and the outside of my legs. I find it terribly offensive that my family and I now have to be subjected to this because of some unknown fear..."

Did he say UNKNOWN fear?..Is this a cave-dweller?..Ask any 6 year old and they can tell you the very clear and present fear and danger.

He finds it "offensive"?.Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse meeeeeeeee!!.Did that become the new buzz word while I wasn't looking?..and since when does our government risk National Security due to someone taking offense?

Alright ..here's the real gem:

"Why should thousands of fans be forced to allow a stranger to frisk them based on nothing more than pure speculation that football games might be a target?” said Ann Brick, ACLU-NC staff attorney. “Giving in to that way of thinking erodes the basic fabric of our free society and our constitutional right to privacy without making us any safer".

Ahem..did she just say "pure speculation"?..Stadiums, where thousands gather are by their own admission- terrorist's targets. Last time I checked -that's called a FACT.

and let's see now..."Patting someone" to ensure that he or she has no suicide belt slapped on is "eroding the basic fabric of our free society"????

Yes,I can see how this "ahem"..case would be the bread and butter of the ACLU attack dogs.
In their solipsistic little dream world there is no need to take precautions..most assuredly if Heaven forfend it may "offend" someone.

Sorry buddy, if you ask me :No Touchdowns without Pat downs.

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  • At 10:28 PM, Blogger Karl m said…

    let me tell you a true story...arab homicide bomber walks into israeli town grocery store looking for..????? local armed resident shoots him in the head...kills him on the spot....saves dozens of lives..

    now if the aclu had their way..the homcide bomber would claim (to late,thank GOD).. his rights to privacy have been violated..also that he finds it terribly offensive that he is now dead...because of some UNKNOW fear..

    (oh by the way...try that move on an airline...you will be biking to your destination)

    Dan and Kathleen SHEEHAN!!!....cindy's relatives not doubt...now i understand everything...

  • At 5:37 AM, Blogger David said…

    I'm conflicted about this. On the one hand, gate searches at such venues don't seem all that intrusive. On the other hand, where's the profiling? As the Israelis and others have adequately demonstrated, profiling just works. Target those most likely to be problems. Look for signs (get El Al airlines to train security personnel—including the goons of the Thousands Standing Around—on how to look for terrorists) and DO THE PROFILING.

    Screw the ACLU and CAIR and all the lil PC-ers: profiling is a better way to go than so-called "random searches".

    But these poofy San Franciscans... You'd think being patted down would suit them, female and male(ish) alike.

  • At 7:07 AM, Blogger Iran Watch said…

    You've got to love the ACLU. An organization dedicated to preserving the rights of Americans that is so completely out of touch with the people whose rights they say they are protecting. Will the ACLU apologize if someone is seriously injured because a bomb strapping terrorist was allowed into a football game? If Americans can handle the much more intrusive search at the airport they can handle a pat down at a football game. And if they can't..stay home and watch it on HDTV, you'll actually see more the game.

  • At 7:10 AM, Blogger Brandon said…

    I do believe that we have forgotten about September 11, 2001 in the United States of America. These people that attacked us has not forgotten that day. They WILL try to attack us again. If you the individual that do not like to be in a area that security is doing their jobs to save thousands and thousands of lives in the USA, then stay at home and watch your football game or whatever on television. Our security is very important. The work that all security personel is doing is not taking away our privacy. It is protecting it.

    Breathe deep, seek peace,
    Brandon Bowers

  • At 7:12 AM, Blogger Iran Watch said…

    David...I agree 100% about profiling. How many blond Scandinavians have committed homicide bombings? I know the argument that if we start profiling, then the terrorist will start using those who don't fit the profile but in reality young Middle Eastern men commit the vast majority of these terrorist acts. Keep random searches but also use profiling.

  • At 8:47 AM, Blogger Middle Class Guy said…

    A while back, the ACLU implemented a policy to search hand carried parcels, backpacks, brief cases, etc. being brought itno their offices.
    YO...can yo spell h y p o c r i t e

  • At 9:55 AM, Blogger Kender said…

    When a major sporting event is attacked...not if but when...the aclu may very well be the first to sue the venue for not protecting the civil liberties of those that are dead, for isn't life one of the civil liberties?

    Actually, the aclu should have no legal leg to stand on, as our laws about violating these supposed civil liberties apply to GOVERNMENT ACTIONS, and your right to privacy is given away at a football game....don't believe me? Check the fine print that says they have the right to broadcast your image without your permission or compensation.

    That means you have no right to privacy there, and if I want to search you before you come in my house it is the same thing....my house, my rules....great article.

  • At 11:10 AM, Blogger American Crusader said…

    I am amazed that an American Civil Liberties organization can be so out of touch with mainstream Americans. It seems the only thing that the ACLU is concerned about are issues that only effect fringe groups and others outside of the majority. This could be a noble calling but they always seem to pick the wrong issues. Of course the rights of minorities need to be protected but I feel the ACLU is more concerned with making headlines.

  • At 11:18 AM, Blogger Always On Watch said…

    Instead of "racial profiling," how about calling it "suspect profiling"? Works for me.

  • At 12:37 PM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said…

    Oh Suspect profiling..I dig that one!.I think we can ALL agree on one thing..they are certainly not Protecting us from anyone!

  • At 5:15 PM, Blogger Lawman said…

    Here's a comment for the whole Sheehan family: This is a free country. You are FREE to pack your stuff and move to Iran, Iraq, North Korea, or anywhere else on the globe you feel your "civil rights" entitle you to move. We ain't gonna miss ya! Actually, we'd probably be better off without your type around anyway. Oh, and be sure and send a postcard detailing Iran's reaction to your complaints of rights violations. If you still have hands to write with....

    Pat down searchs offensive? Puh-leez!

  • At 12:26 AM, Blogger kevin said…

    I post i put up earlier didn't stick, so here we go again; Oct 1 2005, Joel Hienrichs tried to bomb an OU game http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley/Patrick19.htm

    Engineering student Joel Hinrichs was blown up while he sat on a park bench 100 yards from a stadium holding 84,000 football fans attending the game between Kansas State and the University of Oklahoma (OU) in Norman. Hindricks was blown up by a powerful peroxide based explosive TATP that was also used in the recent London train bombings and by shoe bomber Richard Reid. The explosion occurred around 7:30 pm on October 1, 2005 during the start of the Islamic Holy week of Ramadan.

    The bomb that killed Hinrichs was also laced with nails and other shrapnel material. The Norman police also reported that they knew for certain on September 28,2005 from one of their police officers that Hinrichs tried unsuccessfully to buy almost 1000 pounds (22 bags) of ammonium nitrate fertilizer at Ellison’s, a Norman feed store.

  • At 12:29 AM, Blogger kevin said…

    How soon we forget. The search on Hinrich's apartment (which he shared with a Muslim who attended the same mosque as Hinrich) has been sealed by the FBI. The story has been unreported ever since.
    Also of interest; WWW.jaynadavis.com/

  • At 7:03 AM, Blogger The MaryHunter said…

    I'm embarassed to say that I'm a Nor Cal by birth to see this. I'm not conflicted on this issue, and support such surveillance as is deemed necessary to thwart terrorist attacks. I agree with David that it would be much better to do this with profiling, but of course, one step at a time.

    The ACLU wants nothing to protect America -- no profiling, no searching, lest our precious civil liberties be intruded upon. Instead, they advocate protections for the most warped reprobates in our society who would harm us, our children, our way of life.

    Too many of the leftist elitists have forgotten about 9/11. But you know, my 6 y.o. daughter hasn't. She's got more sense about the terrorist threat than do these twits in SF and anyone in the ACLU.

    [A super find, Angel, great contribution to the Stop the ACLU blogburst! (don't forget to post the blogburst plug, get more folk like you involved! You're on the mailing list, right?) ]

  • At 7:35 AM, Blogger WomanHonorThyself said…

    Sure thing TMH..and keep enlightening your precious little 6 year old..They really are "our future."

    Thanks Kevin for sharing that unknown incident..
    and yes I agree with David as well...profiling simply means doing what common sense dictates for mercys sake!


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